And according to new general manager Dave Gettleman, there were no real considerations of taking a quarterback like Sam Darnold or Josh Allen or Josh Rosen, or taking calls about trading out of the pick altogether.
"We all had such a conviction on this kid that at the end of the day ... the only reason that pick wasn't in at 9:58 was because we had to wait until the five-minute mark," Gettleman said of Barkley, according to NJ.com. "Otherwise it would have been in."
Gettleman explained further during an interview with ESPN.
"Basically, once Cleveland took Baker, I told our guys, 'Don't even waste your time. We're taking Saquon and we're going to run,'" Gettleman said.
I am as happy as a clam in a bed of warm sand. I wanted Barkley from the git and I believe the choice gives us a quick turn around back to a winning season and shows that Gettelman is very committed to putting an outstanding O Line together. And...Mason Rudolph is still available for the picking tomorrow!
I’m not happy with this pick at all. I believe the Jets selected the best QB and player in the draft and, as a result, the Jets will be a better team than the Giants over the next 10 years. I also believe we will look back at the decision to pass on Darnold as a huge mistake for the Giants organization. Gettleman is a relic--a guy trapped in the past. In his press conference to defend the Barkley pick, he insulted the analytical approach to football in an incoherent way. This is what he had to say:
"I think a lot of that stuff is nonsense. I think it is someone who had decided to get into the analytics of it and went through whatever. Jonathan Stewart is in his tenth year and he has not lost anything. I don’t believe in that. I don’t care who you take, they can all get hurt."
No one, of course, can make sense out of such senseless comments. It is always reassuring to know that the Giants have a semi-coherent general manager. If you you intend to insult the analytical approach to football, as Gettleman intended, you should at least articulate your arguments clearly so that you don't come across as a buffoon.
While I believe the Jets got the more valuable player in Darnold, no one ultimately knows how this is going to work out. (1) I’ll be rooting for Barkley to be the next M.Faulk, B.Sanders, etc. If he is as good as some people say, he will be fun to watch. (2) Maybe Eli will have a better season next year and has a few big seasons left in him. (3) Maybe Webb, a guy who is easy to root for, can develop into something special.
Time to go OL in round two, get a blocker for Eli, Barkley, and company.
How can you be so disappointed its not like its a shock. Virtually all of the Giants beat writers and most of the mock drafts had Barkley going to the Giants. You can’t rely on analytics. This is not fantasy football where the only thing that matters are numbers. You have to know the sport and trust your eyes. If you have to use analytics to talk your way out the consensus and almost unanimous best player in the draft then thats how you lose. Analytics just like DG insinuated is garbage. Its a tool thats nice to have but you have to know the sport and go with your gut feeling. Accorsi had a gut feeling about Eli. Was it a better pick than Roethlisberger who was his second choice? I don’t know. All I know is that he had a feeling about Eli and in the end lived up to that feeling.
Darnold might be a good player, eventually, or he may not. No analysis of numbers can tell you for sure. But my eyes tells me he has some issues to work on to get better while my eyes tell me that Barkley was as perfect a prospect as you’ll get. You take the best player available based on that not the numbers. Are the Browns wrong for taking Mayfield over Darnold? I don’t know. The same knock on him, his height, is the exact same problem Drew Brees has but that hasn’t affected him. This is an imperfect science where analytics can’t help you. Thats why when you see these redrafts after the fact its completely different. You have to rely on your experience and knowledge of the sport and how X player fits into your team. Thats how you win. Barkley checks off so many boxes that, just like DG said, in the Giants position its a no-brainer,
With Darnold right there, thanks to Cleveland being Cleveland, I thought the Giants should have grabbed him. Darnold, only 20 years old, could sit behind Eli for two years and then start for the next 15. It seemed like the perfect transition.
But what do I know. A few years ago, I was ticked that the team passed on both Zach Martin and Aaron Donald to take some WR from LSU! Turns out that WR from LSU could really play.
Like Beckham, I'm going to enjoy watching Barkley play. He was amazing in college, and he's one of the most exciting RB's to come into the league in a long time. He has the potential to be one of the best of all time, or as our GM puts it "a gold jacket" type of player.
I hope the team goes OL next, specifically interior OL. There are some interior offensive linemen with first round grades available in round 2. It would be nice if the team grabbed one of them.
I will be a bit surprised if Hernandez is not the pick if he is available.
He has to be the pick! Add him as another member of the rebuilt Oline and then get another in the 3rd and we are back in business on offense! Plus another high character guy and from what I hear has a mean streak, which I love in my linemen! Go Giants baby!
freide: As buts go I would put flowers in the Ron Dayne's class.
Oct 12, 2018 15:29:51 GMT -5
uther99: The Oline is just too bad to compete. If you max protect, how many WRs go out, 2? That's 2 WRs against 7 defenders, good luck.
Oct 2, 2018 15:44:12 GMT -5
EddieNYG: homerj, Glad you and your family are safe. Best of luck getting back to your home!
Sept 19, 2018 11:41:21 GMT -5
homerj45: Thanks to those both for the well wishes from my recent mri and my evacuation from my home in New Bern NC,,Florence was and still is quite a nightmare and I immediately evacuated to Raleigh NC with spouse and pets and have no way home at present.
Sept 17, 2018 17:29:50 GMT -5
EddieNYG: Great news, homerj45!
Sept 10, 2018 17:17:28 GMT -5
homerj45: Thanks everyone for well wishes, results were no definite signs of cancer at this point and just need to monitor things , whew, a 80 minute MRI was definitely my fear factor moment at 6 f t5 240 lbs that was a snug fit.
Sept 10, 2018 15:32:10 GMT -5
daytripper: GREAT TO BE HERE
Sept 7, 2018 17:51:10 GMT -5
uther99: Just can't see a win here, all the new pieces for the Giants means mistakes here and there and a loss
Sept 6, 2018 17:46:56 GMT -5
CTGiant: Good luck Homer. Wishing you the best results possible.
Sept 4, 2018 17:06:40 GMT -5
homerj45: Thanks gentleman I feel very welcomed here and amongst friends, thanks so much
Sept 2, 2018 20:46:57 GMT -5
EddieNYG: I second Gordon, homerj45. I hope you get good news this week!
Sept 2, 2018 20:45:43 GMT -5
GordonG: Homer, I hope you get good news this week. Like Troy, I also beat cancer. I was fortunate that it was caught very early. So early that it could have easily been diagnosed as benign.
Sept 2, 2018 20:37:08 GMT -5
homerj45: Happy to hear that Troy....going to find out this week if I face the same battle.Its encouraging to hear so many fight their way back!
Sept 2, 2018 20:28:54 GMT -5
troyarcher: Hi Gang! I was a solid member many years ago before health concerns sidelined me. My user name then was also TroyArcher. Im a cancer survivor! Ive been a diehard Giants fan since 1954. Im 70yo now and began by listening to games on radio with my family.
Sept 2, 2018 13:16:24 GMT -5