Post by boondocksaint88 on Apr 29, 2018 13:03:32 GMT -5
QB prospects in general are HIT or MISS, the middle ground is very small and MISS side of the equation is vast.
So, I like the pick from the perspective of stacking the odds. Draft enough QB's and one will be a HIT.
What I don't like about the pick:
1. If we went into the draft knowing we wanted to draft a QB we could have taken Rudolph at #69. Rudolph is probably an equal or better prospect then Webb. I don't particularly like the B.J. Hill pick. A DT like Hill is not a huge need in my opinion with Dalvin Tomlinson.
2. If we went into the draft knowing we wanted to draft a QB we could have taken Luke Faulk in the 5th. Faulk is regarded as a better prospect and slipped al the way to the 6th. There's even a strong possibility that we could have taken Lauletta in the 5th. There were a lot of great players still available at this time. I like Penn State WR Desean Hamilton from Penn State, NJ guy, Barkley teammate and the Giants shown interest in him with a private workout. WR E. St. Brown also available and LB Shaqeam Griffen. Guys that can make an immediate impact, atleast on ST.
3. What do we do next? We obviously need to carry 3 QB's on our 53 now. Next year, If we want to try drafting a QB again we need to write off Lauletta or Webb. I can see the "QB hell" everyone talks about on the horizon.
Post by goNYgoNYgo on Apr 29, 2018 13:43:57 GMT -5
I don't think the Giants went into the draft knowing they were going to draft a QB. The value was too great to pass in round 4. They had a round 2 grade on the guy.
Don't give me this age crap that he's already 23. Okay so was Tom Brady in his first season. Not saying Lauletta is Brady or anything close to it, but if you want to use the Bill Parcels QB requirements Darnold being 20 isn't a good thing.
He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback. He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously. He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time. He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.
From the colonial athletic association. which has Delaware. stoneybrook. Elon ?. Maine. Towson and Rhode island.
Jimmy Garropolo from Eastern Illinois of the Missouri Valley Conference. Missouri St., Indiana St., North Dakota St.,, Illinois St., Southern Illinois, and others. Was your point concerning competition and how that does not translate to a QB being capable of successful in the NFL? What about Wentz as well? Or Fitzpatrick?
Post by boondocksaint88 on Apr 29, 2018 22:16:36 GMT -5
Watching Lauletta highlights and 2 things are very clear.
1. He's a remarkablyaccurate passer
2. He's not playing against the same competition. There's schools in the Atlantic 10 Conference that have fewer 3,000 students enrolled. Some of these game highlights look like high school games. The stands have just hundreds of fans watching as opposed to say Baker Mayfield playing in front of 85,000+ every Saturday. You cant name a school that Lauletta played against except the University or Albany because we used to practice there. This is the first time that I've ever heard of the Richmond Spiders.
Another thing to note: He's had plenty of time to perfect his craft. He played his first college game in 2013 when Sam Darnold was 15 years old.
Oh...so I guess Phil Simms came from a 85k packed house every week as well.
And yet...here he is..a NY Giant I guess we'll never know why the Cowboys picked a QB..right after we did..and what was his name again..
Put it in perspective...ANY QB in the first round can EASILY SPELL...B U S T...and there you have it.
As DG said...If I have to find a reason to love the guy...It's a mistake waiting to happen.
No mistake on Barkley... BEST player in the draft...B E S T
and #Uno on most if not ALL draft boards. The kid has got skills... oh...not for nothing..Born in The Bronx so he's as competitive as anyone Grew up...Philly...no push over anywhere and certainly not with a silver spoon. He EARNS his keep.
I saw the face of Rosen sitting waiting ..pouting baby
I’m just wondering where this kid would of been selected if he played for a bigger school? It may not of made a difference but it may have as well. I watched a few videos yesterday that people went on record back in March several weeks before the draft and said Lauletta is a better prospect then any of them. Because of the school he played for he will go day 3. If that’s the only reason I will take it. Beleck was one guy. And Robinson was the other. Gil Brandt also said something similar. After a few years of sitting allowing the game speed to slow down he could be the gem of this group
What’s worse getting knocked for turnovers Darnold Getting knocked for Character Rosen Getting knocked for accuracy Allen Getting knocked for size and system Mayfield Or getting knocked for school size Lauletta?
Ya. Agree. Arm strength isn’t high on there list. And my argument has never favored arm strength. I’m a older guy so I have seen a ton of good QBs with a lot of success in the league. Arm strength is rarely an consistent witj QBs but these analysts still puts big arm QBs high
Montana arm wasn’t strong. He just had great touch accuracy and knew what he was looking at
Aikman I never remembered him being a big arm guy Simms I think at the pro bowl competition years ago he threw the ball 60 yards Brady doesn’t have elite arm strength Neither did Peyton or Eli. There arms were just good enough
The only guy I can think of that’s Elite in today’s NFL that has the big arm is Rodgers. Favre Elway has big arms too. But not to many
I actually had the same thought process you are. I did some research on arm strength and what it truely means.
It’s not how far you can throw the ball. Most of these QBs today can launch a football 70 yards down the field. It’s how fast the ball can get there and how much air is needed under the ball (how high it’s thrown) to give defenders less time to recover turn there hips and make a play on the ball
Example is launching an 70 yard pass like Rodgers it’s a bullet or like Pennington when he throws its high. The receivers sometimes have to slow down and adjust there route because they will put run the throw
My concern would be can he throw in the winds of December(and hopefully January) at the Meadowlands. I don't need him to heave it 70 yards. But I will need a QB to handle the winter weather of New Jersey.
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