And according to new general manager Dave Gettleman, there were no real considerations of taking a quarterback like Sam Darnold or Josh Allen or Josh Rosen, or taking calls about trading out of the pick altogether.
"We all had such a conviction on this kid that at the end of the day ... the only reason that pick wasn't in at 9:58 was because we had to wait until the five-minute mark," Gettleman said of Barkley, according to NJ.com. "Otherwise it would have been in."
Gettleman explained further during an interview with ESPN.
"Basically, once Cleveland took Baker, I told our guys, 'Don't even waste your time. We're taking Saquon and we're going to run,'" Gettleman said.
I am as happy as a clam in a bed of warm sand. I wanted Barkley from the git and I believe the choice gives us a quick turn around back to a winning season and shows that Gettelman is very committed to putting an outstanding O Line together. And...Mason Rudolph is still available for the picking tomorrow!
I’m not happy with this pick at all. I believe the Jets selected the best QB and player in the draft and, as a result, the Jets will be a better team than the Giants over the next 10 years. I also believe we will look back at the decision to pass on Darnold as a huge mistake for the Giants organization. Gettleman is a relic--a guy trapped in the past. In his press conference to defend the Barkley pick, he insulted the analytical approach to football in an incoherent way. This is what he had to say:
"I think a lot of that stuff is nonsense. I think it is someone who had decided to get into the analytics of it and went through whatever. Jonathan Stewart is in his tenth year and he has not lost anything. I don’t believe in that. I don’t care who you take, they can all get hurt."
No one, of course, can make sense out of such senseless comments. It is always reassuring to know that the Giants have a semi-coherent general manager. If you you intend to insult the analytical approach to football, as Gettleman intended, you should at least articulate your arguments clearly so that you don't come across as a buffoon.
While I believe the Jets got the more valuable player in Darnold, no one ultimately knows how this is going to work out. (1) I’ll be rooting for Barkley to be the next M.Faulk, B.Sanders, etc. If he is as good as some people say, he will be fun to watch. (2) Maybe Eli will have a better season next year and has a few big seasons left in him. (3) Maybe Webb, a guy who is easy to root for, can develop into something special.
Time to go OL in round two, get a blocker for Eli, Barkley, and company.
How can you be so disappointed its not like its a shock. Virtually all of the Giants beat writers and most of the mock drafts had Barkley going to the Giants. You can’t rely on analytics. This is not fantasy football where the only thing that matters are numbers. You have to know the sport and trust your eyes. If you have to use analytics to talk your way out the consensus and almost unanimous best player in the draft then thats how you lose. Analytics just like DG insinuated is garbage. Its a tool thats nice to have but you have to know the sport and go with your gut feeling. Accorsi had a gut feeling about Eli. Was it a better pick than Roethlisberger who was his second choice? I don’t know. All I know is that he had a feeling about Eli and in the end lived up to that feeling.
Darnold might be a good player, eventually, or he may not. No analysis of numbers can tell you for sure. But my eyes tells me he has some issues to work on to get better while my eyes tell me that Barkley was as perfect a prospect as you’ll get. You take the best player available based on that not the numbers. Are the Browns wrong for taking Mayfield over Darnold? I don’t know. The same knock on him, his height, is the exact same problem Drew Brees has but that hasn’t affected him. This is an imperfect science where analytics can’t help you. Thats why when you see these redrafts after the fact its completely different. You have to rely on your experience and knowledge of the sport and how X player fits into your team. Thats how you win. Barkley checks off so many boxes that, just like DG said, in the Giants position its a no-brainer,
With Darnold right there, thanks to Cleveland being Cleveland, I thought the Giants should have grabbed him. Darnold, only 20 years old, could sit behind Eli for two years and then start for the next 15. It seemed like the perfect transition.
But what do I know. A few years ago, I was ticked that the team passed on both Zach Martin and Aaron Donald to take some WR from LSU! Turns out that WR from LSU could really play.
Like Beckham, I'm going to enjoy watching Barkley play. He was amazing in college, and he's one of the most exciting RB's to come into the league in a long time. He has the potential to be one of the best of all time, or as our GM puts it "a gold jacket" type of player.
I hope the team goes OL next, specifically interior OL. There are some interior offensive linemen with first round grades available in round 2. It would be nice if the team grabbed one of them.
I will be a bit surprised if Hernandez is not the pick if he is available.
He has to be the pick! Add him as another member of the rebuilt Oline and then get another in the 3rd and we are back in business on offense! Plus another high character guy and from what I hear has a mean streak, which I love in my linemen! Go Giants baby!
daytripper: NFT= non football topic? i didnt know that. im old and trying to keep up lol
Jan 23, 2020 10:35:16 GMT -5
56801steve: and he's staying as classless as he is
Jan 20, 2020 11:48:56 GMT -5
56801steve: so he'll pay a fine.
Jan 20, 2020 11:39:28 GMT -5
56801steve: he actually slapped a cops but, hard. he was 'lit up', but forgiveness isnt given for being drunk a bit.
Jan 20, 2020 11:39:18 GMT -5
rjb2006: The Eagles just made chicken salad with 1/2their team consisting of subs and practice squad players...
Dec 29, 2019 20:04:02 GMT -5
frateb: man, for a second i thought detroit was going to pull this one out... i think that would have given us a chance to get as low as 2nd again?
Dec 29, 2019 16:19:47 GMT -5
56801steve: i really like your signature, negative v positive outlooks.....its so true
Dec 29, 2019 16:10:20 GMT -5
UncleJoe10: I thought Buck Allen ran hard and would keep him aboard as a nice power running back up to Saquan.
Dec 16, 2019 17:16:56 GMT -5
bronxpinstripes: Danny Dimes solved the fumbling problem against the Packers by throwing 3 INTs instead.
Dec 2, 2019 11:05:46 GMT -5
rodney27: You're right about the fumbling problem, tl65taog. I just don't think it can be fixed. He had in preseason, has it at a record pace now, and had the same problem at Duke. If he hasn't fixed it in all that time...I just don't know if he can.
Nov 29, 2019 8:26:07 GMT -5
tl65taog: yes the fumbling problem has to be fixed, but you have to be fair about it
Nov 26, 2019 0:40:25 GMT -5
homerj45: Any other members go thru prostate cancer ?
Nov 8, 2019 10:04:09 GMT -5
soullessnight: welcome to the board.
Sept 2, 2019 14:33:34 GMT -5
GordonG: Have fun and be safe
Jun 22, 2019 13:34:10 GMT -5
lastnamejaded: Summer is here! Who's vacationing and where? I'll be doing a southern tour visiting Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee and Arkansas, hiking trails in every state.
Jun 10, 2019 11:01:04 GMT -5
gmenfan: Jeez - the original post was about Zeke Elliott.
May 23, 2019 14:39:51 GMT -5
homerj45: Normally I would ignore a post with arrived to camp with a helicopter but,,,,back at ya,,,
Feb 14, 2019 19:09:22 GMT -5