And according to new general manager Dave Gettleman, there were no real considerations of taking a quarterback like Sam Darnold or Josh Allen or Josh Rosen, or taking calls about trading out of the pick altogether.
"We all had such a conviction on this kid that at the end of the day ... the only reason that pick wasn't in at 9:58 was because we had to wait until the five-minute mark," Gettleman said of Barkley, according to NJ.com. "Otherwise it would have been in."
Gettleman explained further during an interview with ESPN.
"Basically, once Cleveland took Baker, I told our guys, 'Don't even waste your time. We're taking Saquon and we're going to run,'" Gettleman said.
I am as happy as a clam in a bed of warm sand. I wanted Barkley from the git and I believe the choice gives us a quick turn around back to a winning season and shows that Gettelman is very committed to putting an outstanding O Line together. And...Mason Rudolph is still available for the picking tomorrow!
I’m not happy with this pick at all. I believe the Jets selected the best QB and player in the draft and, as a result, the Jets will be a better team than the Giants over the next 10 years. I also believe we will look back at the decision to pass on Darnold as a huge mistake for the Giants organization. Gettleman is a relic--a guy trapped in the past. In his press conference to defend the Barkley pick, he insulted the analytical approach to football in an incoherent way. This is what he had to say:
"I think a lot of that stuff is nonsense. I think it is someone who had decided to get into the analytics of it and went through whatever. Jonathan Stewart is in his tenth year and he has not lost anything. I don’t believe in that. I don’t care who you take, they can all get hurt."
No one, of course, can make sense out of such senseless comments. It is always reassuring to know that the Giants have a semi-coherent general manager. If you you intend to insult the analytical approach to football, as Gettleman intended, you should at least articulate your arguments clearly so that you don't come across as a buffoon.
While I believe the Jets got the more valuable player in Darnold, no one ultimately knows how this is going to work out. (1) I’ll be rooting for Barkley to be the next M.Faulk, B.Sanders, etc. If he is as good as some people say, he will be fun to watch. (2) Maybe Eli will have a better season next year and has a few big seasons left in him. (3) Maybe Webb, a guy who is easy to root for, can develop into something special.
Time to go OL in round two, get a blocker for Eli, Barkley, and company.
How can you be so disappointed its not like its a shock. Virtually all of the Giants beat writers and most of the mock drafts had Barkley going to the Giants. You can’t rely on analytics. This is not fantasy football where the only thing that matters are numbers. You have to know the sport and trust your eyes. If you have to use analytics to talk your way out the consensus and almost unanimous best player in the draft then thats how you lose. Analytics just like DG insinuated is garbage. Its a tool thats nice to have but you have to know the sport and go with your gut feeling. Accorsi had a gut feeling about Eli. Was it a better pick than Roethlisberger who was his second choice? I don’t know. All I know is that he had a feeling about Eli and in the end lived up to that feeling.
Darnold might be a good player, eventually, or he may not. No analysis of numbers can tell you for sure. But my eyes tells me he has some issues to work on to get better while my eyes tell me that Barkley was as perfect a prospect as you’ll get. You take the best player available based on that not the numbers. Are the Browns wrong for taking Mayfield over Darnold? I don’t know. The same knock on him, his height, is the exact same problem Drew Brees has but that hasn’t affected him. This is an imperfect science where analytics can’t help you. Thats why when you see these redrafts after the fact its completely different. You have to rely on your experience and knowledge of the sport and how X player fits into your team. Thats how you win. Barkley checks off so many boxes that, just like DG said, in the Giants position its a no-brainer,
With Darnold right there, thanks to Cleveland being Cleveland, I thought the Giants should have grabbed him. Darnold, only 20 years old, could sit behind Eli for two years and then start for the next 15. It seemed like the perfect transition.
But what do I know. A few years ago, I was ticked that the team passed on both Zach Martin and Aaron Donald to take some WR from LSU! Turns out that WR from LSU could really play.
Like Beckham, I'm going to enjoy watching Barkley play. He was amazing in college, and he's one of the most exciting RB's to come into the league in a long time. He has the potential to be one of the best of all time, or as our GM puts it "a gold jacket" type of player.
I hope the team goes OL next, specifically interior OL. There are some interior offensive linemen with first round grades available in round 2. It would be nice if the team grabbed one of them.
I will be a bit surprised if Hernandez is not the pick if he is available.
He has to be the pick! Add him as another member of the rebuilt Oline and then get another in the 3rd and we are back in business on offense! Plus another high character guy and from what I hear has a mean streak, which I love in my linemen! Go Giants baby!
Carson53: Superbowl 25 special on ESPNEWS right now if you get that
Feb 20, 2022 23:11:17 GMT -5
freide: I thought Joes comments after being fired showed class.
Jan 15, 2022 19:05:23 GMT -5
ginodanapoli: Licenzia subito Giuseppe Judge!
Jan 4, 2022 13:59:26 GMT -5
tupperlake: Havent see a drive like that all year
Dec 12, 2021 16:39:19 GMT -5
alohar2: I began my Giants fan passion in 1961; Huff was a great, intense LB who had classic games vs Jim Taylor of the Packers (ie 1962 champ. game) and Jim Brown. Sam along w/Frank Gifford helped begin the "glitz" of the NFL w/TV commercials and NYC media attenti
Nov 15, 2021 7:24:54 GMT -5
Carson53: Good for Andrew and good for us. Given everything it would really suck to miss on a #4 overall pick at LT. Guys like that are supposed to be solid picks and he is.
Oct 5, 2021 21:51:53 GMT -5
homerj45: JOE MUST GO !!!!!!
Sept 26, 2021 15:49:36 GMT -5
bigjohnmendenhall: I can wait in the parking lot and watch those steaks for you!
Sept 12, 2021 6:45:41 GMT -5
alohar2: Does anyone know the exact nature of Rudolph's foot injury? I don't recall DG/JJ describing the injury. We recall Strahan had a lis franc- tough recovery. Rudolph offers the Giants the most complete TE since Shockey. Iowa State has several terrific TEs.
Aug 21, 2021 7:16:04 GMT -5
MickW: Terrific. Thanks so much.
Aug 10, 2021 11:37:23 GMT -5
#9: Its Like They Were Dead Set Not Taking O/L. Their Must Be A Plan, Right Its now august 8th. Whats the plan?
Aug 8, 2021 12:18:42 GMT -5
bronxpinstripes: Gotta have an excuse in case Jones doesn't perform again this year.
May 6, 2021 12:36:22 GMT -5
blueboy: This organization has been trying to put fancy wheels on a 100k Toyota for a number of years now. I hope they go offensive line in the 1st round. TUCKER!
Apr 11, 2021 8:21:30 GMT -5
freide: So it looks like OL? I'd love to have a shot at Pitts but thats probably a pipe dream.
Apr 1, 2021 21:20:50 GMT -5
xny: I think he will take the year off to fight off these accusations and clear away some of these thick clouds.
Mar 30, 2021 22:21:22 GMT -5
oldblue: Stars floating all around us....We got no money so they haven't found us....Give us Witherspoon or Buddy Dupree....Dream a little dream of me
Mar 20, 2021 23:08:42 GMT -5
oldblue: Kyle, JuJu or MacKenzie...Judon is gone to kil the free agent frenzy....Clowney would be nice wherever he be....dream a little dream of me..
Mar 20, 2021 23:03:32 GMT -5
oldblue: To the tune of "Dream a Little Dream Of Me"
Mar 20, 2021 23:01:46 GMT -5
AmaniToomerToeDrag: Wouldn't it be so 2020 for the Giants to not only make the playoffs, but to pull off the greatest playoff push in NFL history? Beat the Bills in the Super Bowl. One could dream. Speaking of Dream, what a stud that Daniel Jones is at QB. 😉Later Haters😉
Dec 30, 2020 5:04:18 GMT -5