Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia Apr 27, 2020 13:03:20 GMT -5

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Apr 27, 2020 1:33:44 GMT -5 lexington1 said:

Apr 25, 2020 8:28:45 GMT -5 mrpeppers said:

We’ll see, perhaps I was a little harsh, I was hoping for Wills. I honestly don’t know much about Thomas, he was the tackle I knew the least about, but based on reading others comments I fell better about the pick.

wills? Andrew Thomas Gave up 36 total QB pressures in 41 career games at Georgia. There’s not another OT in this class that comes close to that. My guess is he wasn’t everyone’s consensus top OT because he doesn’t play nasty. He’s a quiet ass kicker. He simply does his job at a higher level than the opponent.

good point.

for comparison. Ronnie stanley is the best in the NFL for pressure rate stats at 1.9 %. (10 pressures/515 snaps)
www.pff.com/news/pro-signature-stat-spotlight-offensive-line

Andrew Thomas =
www.google.com/search?q=andrew+thomas+pressure+rate&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS806US806&oq=andrew+thomas+pressure+rate&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.5247j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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2.2 percent

With nine total pressures, his pressure rate was 2.2 percent – one of the best in the draft class. On runs behind him, the backs averaged 3.0 yards before contact with a 50 percent success rate, according to Sports Info Solutions

Jedrick Wills =
www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/top-offensive-tackles-in-nfl-draft-jedrick-wills

"What we don’t like

While he allowed only one sack, he gave up four hits and nine additional hurries for 14 total pressures. His pressure rate of 3.1 percent was good but not great. He’ll need a bigger toolbox to combat advanced pass rushers. He was a penalty machine, at least in comparison to the other draft-worthy tackles, with two holds and five false starts"

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia Apr 27, 2020 14:37:37 GMT -5

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AT run blocking hihglights:

Some of those reps look like "teaching tape">>>

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia Apr 27, 2020 17:27:01 GMT -5

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Apr 27, 2020 13:03:20 GMT -5 goldenratio said:

Apr 27, 2020 1:33:44 GMT -5 lexington1 said:

wills? Andrew Thomas Gave up 36 total QB pressures in 41 career games at Georgia. There’s not another OT in this class that comes close to that. My guess is he wasn’t everyone’s consensus top OT because he doesn’t play nasty. He’s a quiet ass kicker. He simply does his job at a higher level than the opponent.

With nine total pressures, his pressure rate was 2.2 percent – one of the best in the draft class. On runs behind him, the backs averaged 3.0 yards before contact with a 50 percent success rate, according to Sports Info Solutions

LOL, Georgia RB's averaged 3 yards before contact running behind Thomas? Imagine what Barkley would do with 3 yards before contact???

Barkley finished some entire games last year with NEGATIVE yards before contact.

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia Apr 27, 2020 19:17:39 GMT -5

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Post by mrpeppers on Apr 27, 2020 19:17:39 GMT -5

Apr 27, 2020 1:33:44 GMT -5 lexington1 said:

Apr 25, 2020 8:28:45 GMT -5 mrpeppers said:

We’ll see, perhaps I was a little harsh, I was hoping for Wills. I honestly don’t know much about Thomas, he was the tackle I knew the least about, but based on reading others comments I fell better about the pick.

wills? Andrew Thomas Gave up 36 total QB pressures in 41 career games at Georgia. There’s not another OT in this class that comes close to that. My guess is he wasn’t everyone’s consensus top OT because he doesn’t play nasty. He’s a quiet ass kicker. He simply does his job at a higher level than the opponent.

Great, are you done?

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia Apr 27, 2020 22:24:02 GMT -5

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Post by goldenratio on Apr 27, 2020 22:24:02 GMT -5

Just an interesting tidbit on one of the guys the NYG passed on, Mekhi Becton". He of course was picked by the Jets in round 1.

Becton's girlfriend made a post reference that becton is "beating addiction". Plus he had a flagged drug test at the combine..... hmmmmmmm

forums.jetnation.com/topic/151892-becton-previous-addiction-problems/

Last Edit: Apr 27, 2020 22:25:03 GMT -5 by goldenratio

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia Apr 28, 2020 9:02:36 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by lazur on Apr 28, 2020 9:02:36 GMT -5

For me it was Wills or Thomas. Wirfs just looked more like a RT long term because of his build and playing style. Becton I believe is definitely a RT and if he has problems with weight he could even be moved to guard like Fluker. Remember Fluker was a similar prospect just didn’t run as fast

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 3, 2020 13:53:53 GMT -5

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www.giants.com/podcasts/big-blue-kickoff-live-4-29-sam-pittman-former-georgia-ol-coach

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lazur Hall of Famer Posts: 9,664	Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 3, 2020 14:16:24 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by lazur on May 3, 2020 14:16:24 GMT -5 It wouldn’t shock me if he becomes the best tackle in this class and top OT conversation in the league. If he does the work it can happen

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 3, 2020 14:30:00 GMT -5

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Post by goldenratio on May 3, 2020 14:30:00 GMT -5

May 3, 2020 14:16:24 GMT -5 lazur said:

It wouldn’t shock me if he becomes the best tackle in this class and top OT conversation in the league. If he does the work it can happen

Let's hope so. Nothing would really surprise me all that much with this draft class. There was such a lack of consensus this year, it's anybody's guess who works out to be the better players.

Last Edit: May 3, 2020 14:30:22 GMT -5 by goldenratio

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 3, 2020 19:46:53 GMT -5

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May 3, 2020 14:16:24 GMT -5 lazur said:

It wouldn’t shock me if he becomes the best tackle in this class and top OT conversation in the league. If he does the work it can happen

He was perhaps the best tackle prospect in college, and this is with the overall shoddy coaching players get in college. Now he's in the NFL and has a legit O-Line coach and former O-Line player in Columbo who can help him become even better.

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 3, 2020 20:02:38 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by lexington1 on May 3, 2020 20:02:38 GMT -5

Apr 27, 2020 19:17:39 GMT -5 mrpeppers said:

Apr 27, 2020 1:33:44 GMT -5 lexington1 said:

wills? Andrew Thomas Gave up 36 total QB pressures in 41 career games at Georgia. There’s not another OT in this class that comes close to that. My guess is he wasn’t everyone’s consensus top OT because he doesn’t play nasty. He’s a quiet ass kicker. He simply does his job at a higher level than the opponent.

Great, are you done?

now that your educated, sure why not? Sorry if facts annoy you lol.

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 3, 2020 20:58:47 GMT -5 via mobile mrpeppers likes this

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May 3, 2020 20:02:38 GMT -5 lexington1 said:

Apr 27, 2020 19:17:39 GMT -5 mrpeppers said:

Great, are you done?

now that your educated, sure why not? Sorry if facts annoy you lol.

*you’re

Oh the irony.

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 5, 2020 13:46:24 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by grizz299 on May 5, 2020 13:46:24 GMT -5

"Your" for "you're" is:
1. likely a consequence of dictating

2. Not worth criticizing in any instance.

Interesting,,,,new to the board and from the start our conscience and critic.The poster would be better served by contributing rather than nit-picking ..

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 8, 2020 20:08:43 GMT -5

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Post by TheShade on May 8, 2020 20:08:43 GMT -5

Week 1: TJ Watt
Week 2: Khalil Mack
Week 3: Nick Bosa
Week 5: Demarcus Lawrence
Week 6: Chase Young
Week 7: Brandon Graham
Week 8: Shaq Barrett
Week 9: Chase Young (Again)
Week 10: Brandon Graham (Again)
Week 14: Chandler Jones
Week 15: Myles Garrett
Week 17: Demarcus Lawrence (Again)

Look at that list of pass rushers the Giants have to face this season. Its pretty much Murderers Row before the bye week. Do people still think the Giants should of gone with Isiah Simmons at #4 over Andrew Thomas?

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia May 12, 2020 23:59:31 GMT -5

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May 8, 2020 20:08:43 GMT -5 TheShade said:

Week 1: TJ Watt
Week 2: Khalil Mack
Week 3: Nick Bosa
Week 5: Demarcus Lawrence
Week 6: Chase Young
Week 7: Brandon Graham
Week 8: Shaq Barrett
Week 9: Chase Young (Again)
Week 10: Brandon Graham (Again)
Week 14: Chandler Jones
Week 15: Myles Garrett
Week 17: Demarcus Lawrence (Again)

Look at that list of pass rushers the Giants have to face this season. Its pretty much Murderers Row before the bye week. Do people still think the Giants should of gone with Isiah Simmons at #4 over Andrew Thomas?

I was all in on Thomas back in November or December so I really like the pick,

But you can't select a high draft pick on your opponents in the ensuing season. You're selecting a draft pick based on your team's needs, philosophy and at least a 4-5 year window/plan.

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Round 1 - Pick 4 -- Andrew Thomas (OT) Georgia

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